Ten Questions with Royal Caribbean Fan, featuring Ryan Wahlstrom of CruiseMarketWatch.com
Tuesday, March 24th, 2009Ryan Wahlstrom’s website, www.CruiseMarketWatch.com, is providing statistical insight into the ebb and flow of the cruise industry unseen before. Ryan graduated from Iowa State University with a degree in Anthropology and International Studies, and earned a masters degree from Northern Arizona University in Applied Anthropology with a parallel focus on Business and Statistics. He cut his teeth on the cruise industry in 1995, when he founded Caribbean Carriage Company in Puerto Rico, providing drawn carriage rides to visiting passengers. Presently he is a Business Development Manager for the Miami Herald Media Company, taking charge of marketing efforts for products generating over seventy million per year.
Of late, Ryan has been tapping into the pulse of the cruise industry with a series of surveys, engaging over 250 travel agents in probing the health of the industry. You can review the results in detail at his website, www.CruiseMarketWatch.com.
1. Have we seen the peak of discounting for this business cycle?
I believe so, but I don’t look for a sharp, quick increase in prices either. Two reasons. One is that lines have sophisticated pricing models that tell them when to hit the brakes on discounting. RCL stated in its earnings conference they have determined in certain cases they would rather leave a cabin empty than discount too much. A number of luxury lines also stated at the Cruise Shipping Conference here in Miami price integrity is important to maintaining brand image. The other issue is “shorter in” bookings trends. So while cruises are sailing full, shorter in bookings by travelers have still left some cabin availability further out in the year (more than has been left in previous wave seasons).
2. Discounting aside, most ships remain full, does this position the cruise lines for a sharper rebound as the economy improves?
Absolutely, yes. Cruise line’s value has allowed them to continue gaining market share from other vacation alternatives, and the more people exposed to the cruise experience, the more who will become repeat customers and evangelize the cruise experience to friends and family. There are still also tremendous growth opportunities in all the overseas markets, where market penetration remains considerably lower than in the U.S.
3. Are prospective cruisers taking notice of the difference in ship design more now, than prior to the Voyager family of designs?
Certainly cruise lines have become more sophisticated marketers. In addition, online social online media is expanding the distance and speed of communications compared to the 1999 Voyager launch. So there is enhanced ability and skill in getting the word out to generate buzz around product. And the product itself? The Oasis of the Seas is a true jaw dropper, hard not to take notice!
4. Some Wall Street analysts were frothing at the mouth over Royal Caribbean International not canceling new building; do they sometimes miss the larger picture when pouring over more immediate numbers and results?
The analysts are looking at a number of factors besides demand, primarily oil prices and financial debt loads. Paying down debt borrowed to finance new ships and buying the fuel to move them impact operating costs – actually limiting a lines ability to discount prices and impacting margins. So that is basically Wall Street’s perspective, while the lines are saying “Yes, but.. we need these builds to keep up with future growth and maintain or grow our share of the market.”
5. Does Royal Caribbean International’s move towards providing more perks and services to higher levels of cabins represent modern spin on old class based travel?
I think so, but I also believe it opens up the product to a broader market by providing something for everyone. If I have limited budget, but love the cruise experience I can. If I have a more generous budget, and would like to enjoy the amenities, I can. More choices are good.
6. Much as the lines may be rivals, doesn’t a major event like the latest Voyager, Freedom, or now Oasis Class ship boost the entire industry?
Yes. It opens up the market to new cruisers, it generates conversations around the ships, it builds more exposure for the whole industry.
7. After the discounting, such as we see now, and previously in 2001, abates, will the industry retain many of the less affluent guests cruising now?
Well yes. Carnival has been unabashedly open about being “Wal-Mart of the Seas” and that strategy helped bring cruise to the masses to make the industry what it is today. Each major line, Carnival, Royal Caribbean and NCL’s corporate parent Apollo own Luxury, Premium and Contemporary lines. So the business model is to cater to all segments of the market to provide something for everyone. Over the coarse of a cruisers vacation life-cycle, they will likely move up through various types of cruises.
8. Have the nearly ten years of ever larger and more revolutionary ships given Royal Caribbean International a marketing edge which previous was held by Carnival with its old theme song?
RCL seems to have an advantage with the “buzz” factor and great agent relations, but today it is really about looking for niches of travelers. For example, some cruisers will always love the intimacy of a small ship and the exotic ports of call they can reach. So I think it is about who has an edge within each group of prospective cruisers.
9. Will the projected near halt of new tonnage entering the market trigger upward pricing pressure in a couple of years?
That is a real possibility but still pretty far out. When the economy fully recovers (likely 2011) the industry will still be absorbing the new capacity and by that time additional builds can be ordered. I’m not 100% certain about this, but I think if you look at ticket prices 10 years ago or even 20 they probably have remained fairly stable if not lower, despite inflation. So the industries “build it and they will come” strategy has been pretty good about keeping up with demand – and the industries larger size gives them buying power that allows them to keep the value low compared to land based vacation alternatives.
10. Do you think the Cuban demographic in the U.S. Retains enough clout to keep an opening of that island off the table during an Obama administration?
Probably, certainly during a first term. But my experience in Miami is younger generations of Cuban’s are opening up to different ways of thinking about this issue from their parents. My personal opinion is history has proven opening channels for business and communications and exposing people to different systems actually facilitates quicker change.